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it would be better if India joins the FCAS program, at least it won't be a "STOPGAP" in the 40s !!
Another repeat of the FGFA, we will learn jackshit, get jackshit ToT. They will graciously allow us to fabricate non-sensitive LRUs and still make us import avionics and engines. There is simply no need to jointly produce fighter jets with any other country. We only need engine development JV.
Guys guys guys important!



What's in it for the generals? How do they get the piece of the pie in case of foreign mal?



we need to explore the mechanics of corruption.

I don't think there is a report anywhere that explain how high ranking defense personnel conduct their money minting.
This is India, someone gets cut in for even the relatively insignificant things, like contracting for 10 kms of asphalting work.
 
Ralfale will be a gamechanger.
S400 will be a gamechanger
Voronezh will be a gamechanger
F35 will be a gamechanger
Alhua gamechanger
If it can detect stealth apart from BMs & CMs it's indeed a game changer. Why would you need the F-35 then ? The J-20 becomes just another 4.5++ Gen FA only better networked & with better systems like avionics & sensors.

Do go thru the ambitious plans of our armed forces to network all the radars whether civilian or military into one seamless grid apart from further adding capabilities & the IADS we're building , for your own benefit .

You'd know what that content creator is talking about.
 
Very heartening to learn that we are safe till 2028-29. Previously it was 2027 iirc .


We'll have Amca prototype flying by 2028-29 ( if not further delayed).

That should count for something.
Are you being sarcastic or are you joking ?

It's too late to implement anything substantial like getting new FAs be it the F-35s or even the Rafales , though in case of the latter a tiny window does exist for exercising the option for additional 36-54 nos for the IAF as integration will be easier if we were to get some if not all before 2030 .

However I don't see any developments from GoI in this direction .

We fight with what we have. Just internalise this mantra .
 
I'm not sure these days.


This realisation might have forced iaf chief to publicly call out HAL.
Wonder where was this realisation when his predecessor adamantly refused to go in for piece meal induction of the Rafales insisting on the MRFA tender publicly clashing with the then CDS the late Gen Rawat & is now justifying it in interviews with The misPrint & what was the placeholder of a DM & his boss 56' doing then ?

Result 3 years passed by & the entire security establishment especially the IAF were playing with their joysticks. On a scale of 1-10 where would you place delayed integration of the Astra missiles with the LCA to non induction of at least the second tranche of Rafales.

Had the deal been concluded in 2021 , we'd be taking possession of them now .
 
Wonder where was this realisation when his predecessor adamantly refused to go in for piece meal induction of the Rafales insisting on the MRFA tender publicly clashing with the then CDS the late Gen Rawat & is now justifying it in interviews with The misPrint & what was the placeholder of a DM & his boss 56' doing then ?

His predecessor was sure Rawat and Modi will come around on MRFA they couldn't read the tea leaves.

Which brings me back to my original assertion. No body in GOI takes Chinese threat seriously. Now I don't know whether there is overconfident in establishment or they are more realistic compared to defence community.

Anyways we shall learn the truth by 2030 one way or another.
 
Indians do have to cope a lot about it, but so will the Tejas on our side.
Additionally, Pakistani stand always had been that F-16s moved in to keep Abhinandan engaged while Jf-17s sniped him, from the Day 1.

Ahhh yes now we are taking Pakistani statement as gospel of truth.

Don't be ashamed to show your original flag. We welcome goatshaggers on this forums as well.

...& if they really got PL-15 then it's definitely better than Su-30 at BVRs rn.

Shooting PL-15s with JF-17s radars ? Its like trying to shoot a .50BMG to a target 2 kms away but with just an iron sight.
 
You a certification agent? Better be a Wumao than a low IQ troll
I am

Whatever Blud...if this is what prevents us from scrambling our asses after realising there isn't any Arctic gear for the next confrontation then I'll happily be a Wumao.

All hail our Lord the Saviour, the Sparrow Annihilator
Thank u for your service.

also,

>Didn't post hand

lets see those yellow fingers

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You mean that Chinese made third rate Stealth fighters will shoot down the F-35 within a week……. Dream on.
Yes, I believe so. Operating lone F-35 without backup systems that are part of NATO protocol and US doctarine is equivalent to putting S-400 in the middle of desert and expecting it to defend 400km radius. It will never happen. both F-35 and S-400 are effective because of the inputs they get from background Radars, Satcom, Terrain mapping by other assets and integrated command structure.
 
Yes, I believe so. Operating lone F-35 without backup systems that are part of NATO protocol and US doctarine is equivalent to putting S-400 in the middle of desert and expecting it to defend 400km radius. It will never happen. both F-35 and S-400 are effective because of the inputs they get from background Radars, Satcom, Terrain mapping by other assets and integrated command structure.
Dream on……
 
Dream on……
Listen dadu ji.
What he said is in the right course.
F35 while better in stealth and sensors than chinese one, will still need support and large no. To take on chinese large no of stealth jets chinese have and producing.
If you let's say get 2 Squads of f35 then you will most likely never use it against other chinese stealth fighters for defense because losing even 1 f35 is a big loss for us, they will mostly be used for selected deep penetration stealth ops and will most likely try not to engage chinese stealth fighters.
 
Listen dadu ji.
What he said is in the right course.
F35 while better in stealth and sensors than chinese one, will still need support and large no. To take on chinese large no of stealth jets chinese have and producing.
If you let's say get 2 Squads of f35 then you will most likely never use it against other chinese stealth fighters for defense because losing even 1 f35 is a big loss for us, they will mostly be used for selected deep penetration stealth ops and will most likely try not to engage chinese stealth fighters.
BS
 
Ahhh yes now we are taking Pakistani statement as gospel of truth.

Don't be ashamed to show your original flag. We welcome goatshaggers on this forums as well.



Shooting PL-15s with JF-17s radars ? Its like trying to shoot a .50BMG to a target 2 kms away but with just an iron sight.

They'll have to upgrade the radar ofcourse... But there orginal point still stands.

And after losing two aircraft with nothing to show for, it became pretty obvious that Indian Air Force was just making shit up to save face. Almost all the world now disbelieves them (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse). That leaves the Paki version, which although probably exaggerated aligns more with reality & everyone think they're telling the truth. That animated "radar map" didn't convince anyone in the world (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse).
 
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Shooting PL-15s with JF-17s radars ? Its like trying to shoot a .50BMG to a target 2 kms away but with just an iron sight.
Well.. the KLJ-7 can do it depending on how close they launched from. Even with it's limited uptime due to the air-cooled architecture, it can still do work against a 3msq target under 70-75 km. But I call bullshit on the PL-15 bit, it's wasteful on the Jeff (and it's not like their F-16s can lead in PL-15s carried by the Jeff). They probably used export model SD-10As which are more on par with the KLJ-7's practical limitations.
 
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