Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

Operatorr said:
why are these niggas laughing broЁЯШнЁЯШн i just asked a jainwin question
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If GoI was to go down the tender path , it could've done so since 2016 when the MMRCA was cancelled or later on between 2021-24 , when ACM Chaudhari was adamant on getting the 114 nos thru the tendering route as opposed to the piece meal induction a la MKIs favoured by the MoD & the then CDS.

Since then they've released RFI for the MRFA tender / MMRCA 2.0 in 2016-17 IIRC , for which no AoN has been granted However , the idea prevailing now is to revive procurement thru G2G contracts first for the long pending 36 nos Rafales before moving on with further requirements if any .

But then this is India we're talking about where the government & the various arms of the state work at cross purposes which is to say anything can happen.

Let's wait for the committee appointed to look in to the state of affairs within the IAF to come up with their report . Assuming the broad contours are made public , it's only then we'd have an idea of how things are shaping up .
 
Corvus Splendens said:
Well.. the KLJ-7 can do it depending on how close they launched from. Even with it's limited uptime due to the air-cooled architecture, it can still do work against a 3msq target under 70-75 km. But I call bullshit on the PL-15 bit, it's wasteful on the Jeff (and it's not like their F-16s can lead in PL-15s carried by the Jeff). They probably used export model SD-10As which are more on par with the KLJ-7's practical limitations.
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They can use jf17 as missile carrier and guide Pl 15 through j10.
J10 with better EW much closer to enemy jf 17 following behind at a distance.
 
randombully said:
They can use jf17 as missile carrier and guide Pl 15 through j10.
J10 with better EW much closer to enemy jf 17 following behind at a distance.
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Not sure about that, jf17 is borderline 4th gen. RD33+No Fly by wire+Huge RCS+Heavy payload= EZ target for Astra mk2
ALso it has refueling issues when carrying load and manuvouring, that probe is removable (possibly because of excessive drag)
 
Asmodeus said:
Not sure about that, jf17 is borderline 4th gen. RD33+No Fly by wire+Huge RCS+Heavy payload= EZ target for Astra mk2
ALso it has refueling issues when carrying load and manuvouring, that probe is removable (possibly because of excessive drag)
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But can still be used as carrier for missile, because j10 because at most will carry 4 pl15, having an extra carrier is good if need arise.
 
Bleh said:
They'll have to upgrade the radar ofcourse... But there orginal point still stands.

And after losing two aircraft with nothing to show for, it became pretty obvious that Indian Air Force was just making shit up to save face. Almost all the world now disbelieves them (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse). That leaves the Paki version, which although probably exaggerated aligns more with reality & everyone think they're telling the truth. That animated "radar map" didn't convince anyone in the world (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse).
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Almost all the world -> NATO, who, ofcouse would never want to believe a Mig-21 can shoot down a F-16.
Its like China saying they only lost 4 soldiers in Galwan, and everybody believed them.

I do not hear any criticism for any other Air force for franticide, including recently USN shooting down their own F-18s.

Typical brown sepoy mentality. Everything India & Indian is bad and incompetent. Unless it is vetted and approved by gora masters it holds no value. Also all the mistakes and shortcomings of gora masters are automatically forgiven.
 
mist_consecutive said:
Almost all the world -> NATO,
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Literally. Everyone. Even Russians. (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse)

Shooting down unidentified jet on international waters & slow-moving helo 200km inside our border are not the same thing. ЁЯШЖ Brown sepoy & brown shit has a difference! Almost whole PAF was in the air. They didn't shoot down any (although for a bit Indian story was that they did a blue-on-blue with the F-16 before they changed it & claimed Abhinandan did it).


We're a free citizen of free India. But I'm not so patriotic that'll GOI can shit in my mouth & I'll swallow... Plus my original point still stands.
 
randombully said:
Supposed to get it this year.
The long time taken has more to do with higher expectations of US military.
For example j20 got foc but still can only carry air to air load, it's only now chinese are making it multirole.
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han bhai FOC nahi hai but Iran ki mkb kar sakti hai.


Matlab... kuch toh dimaag lagao bhai
 
Bleh said:
They'll have to upgrade the radar ofcourse... But there orginal point still stands.

And after losing two aircraft with nothing to show for, it became pretty obvious that Indian Air Force was just making shit up to save face. Almost all the world now disbelieves them (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse). That leaves the Paki version, which although probably exaggerated aligns more with reality & everyone think they're telling the truth. That animated "radar map" didn't convince anyone in the world (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse).
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ehhh, what?
 
Binayak95 said:
ehhh, what?
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Nothing, we digressed. We were talking about how PAF support ensured they have 100s of Jeffs although it was less capable at induction but can be upgraded to Block3 standards atleast & I'll bet they'll get Block 4 before we get MWF.
 
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Bleh said:
Literally. Everyone. Even Russians. (other than patriotic Indians like you ofcourse)

Shooting down unidentified jet on international waters & slow-moving helo 200km inside our border are not the same thing. ЁЯШЖ Brown sepoy & brown shit has a difference! Almost whole PAF was in the air. They didn't shoot down any (although for a bit Indian story was that they did a blue-on-blue with the F-16 before they changed it & claimed Abhinandan did it).


We're a free citizen of free India. But I'm not so patriotic that'll GOI can shit in my mouth & I'll swallow... Plus my original point still stands.
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leave it .

govt should have posted satellite image of hostel strike next day . they can still do it ,

IAF needs a 2nd balakot to get back its credibility . something i doubt will happen in near future.
 
If IAF is so eager with F35, should we just take Rafales from IAF , modify them and give those to Navy ?
IAF can have a bigger fleet of F35 in that way with capex saved in Rafale-M purchase.
I guess it shouldn't cost more than 1.2B$ to convert AF Rafale to Marine, ~35M each.
@BON PLAN what do you think about the commonalities between AF rafale and Marine rafale.
 
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