Indian Special Forces

[username unkown]

Mate do you consider Para SF as super soldiers? Because news flash, they might be at par with others when it comes to skills, endurance etc
when it comes to everything else, they are sub par at best

They doesnt have enough gear yes but saying they will be slaughtered by trts is plain stupid and ignorant
We are by time seeing sf getting more and more modern gear its timely process i myself raised question on mordenisation of sf and infantry in past on this very thread but if some stupid says our best soldier will be slaughtered because he thinks sf doesn't have night fighting capability then he is stupid and I will argue

 

[username unkown]

The real reason -

View attachment 9257View attachment 9258View attachment 9259Curb on small arms exports to India has been lifted as of 2024.

Yes got them to test liked them prepared to give orders then realised we are Indians we don't do things simple and went back to 0.

Germany and Europe is not reliable defence partner even for zorawar engine germany failed to do so at last zorawar had american engine now there were also report germany failed to supply engine for arjun mk1a and in future germany will again stop export to india saying same human rights bullshit

 

[KAB7777]

MRAD WITH NSG
(Is this NSG or GODZILLA?)
View attachment 9198

Not godzilla
It's NSG with barett m98b (elder brother of mrad thus the striking similarity )

NSG kbse MRAD use krne lgi?

View: https://x.com/adityab_77/status/1834126698188824623?s=61&t=yuvGwS0cN0KJv4VlBwTZFg

 

[Noob]

Germany and Europe is not reliable defence partner even for zorawar engine germany failed to do so at last zorawar had american engine now there were also report germany failed to supply engine for arjun mk1a and in future germany will again stop export to india saying same human rights bullshit

No one said they only had to go to Germany and Europe for small arms even yahoodis had AR options and you Had uncle sam in the end it's the will to change from shitty platforms to good platforms when that comes you will see changes

 

[Noob]

Maanga bhi kitna kam quantity tha becharo ne. Utna successful surgical strike ke baad itna toh de dena chaiye tha. Lekin madarchod MoD.

@Noob I dont think they would get ARs anytime soon. PLR se TAR FT diladenge, aur ITL Mars ki jagah Mepro MOR.

Kuch ni aa raha chill Maro and enjoy them doing CT ops and getting pigs

 

[Noob]

The real reason -

View attachment 9257View attachment 9258View attachment 9259Curb on small arms exports to India has been lifted as of 2024.

Had plenty of other options and ways to get them from US you don't stop mordernasation of the whole SF cause of one hiccup you find alternatives and execute those steps

 

[username unkown]

No one said they only had to go to Germany and Europe for small arms even yahoodis had AR options and you Had uncle sam in the end it's the will to change from shitty platforms to good platforms when that comes you will see changes

There are lot of option and Indian sss defence too but army have unique fixation fir AK , Europen gucci stuff and yahudi arms

 

[JConline]

In your last paragraph you say millitant have gen 3 nvg and thermals meanwhile forces have gen 2 nvg and thermals
Meanwhile in reality in squad of 4 trts only one have m4 which is equiped with cheap Chinese thermals and no gen 3 nvg as you claimed
And para have thermals from tonbo which are one of the best as thier fairly distributed on them and also nvg mono
Which is good night fighting capability not best but good lets hope we see bino and quads in future
And you Sayed if para does night op against millitant then they will be slaughtered how much of inferior complex you have fir yourself
indian sf are more than capable of conducting such ops successfuly
They doesnt have enough gear yes but saying they will be slaughtered by trts is plain stupid and ignorant

Yeah, sure para's have Tonbo TIs, but how often have we seen them on the ground during ops? I probably could count that on one hand. Moreover, it's not me who's claiming that terrorists might have gen 3 nvgs, Maj. Sahani said it on the podcast.
Now, like the terrorists, most Para SF squads have maybe 1 or 2 Tonbo TIs in a squad and the standard NV is still a gen 2 monocular. Para SF is hardly even seen wearing appropriate headgear to run the Tonbo TIs. It's mostly those crappy monoculars.
"Indian sf are more than capable of conducting such ops successfully"
I'm not gonna say too much about this but refer you to all the botched ops that happened this year and the last couple of years. Ops that happened on friendly territory, casualties caused by repeating the same mistake repeatedly.

And let me be clear, by saying that Para SF would get slaughtered at night by terrorists, I'm not insinuating that the individual Para SF operatives are incapable; they r capable, well-trained, motivated men. But unfortunately, humans are capable of only so much. You need the gear to enable the operative to properly be able to put his skills to use.

 

[username unkown]

Yeah, sure para's have Tonbo TIs, but how often have we seen them on the ground during ops? I probably could count that on one hand. Moreover, it's not me who's claiming that terrorists might have gen 3 nvgs, Maj. Sahani said it on the podcast.
Now, like the terrorists, most Para SF squads have maybe 1 or 2 Tonbo TIs in a squad and the standard NV is still a gen 2 monocular. Para SF is hardly even seen wearing appropriate headgear to run the Tonbo TIs. It's mostly those crappy monoculars.
"Indian sf are more than capable of conducting such ops successfully"
I'm not gonna say too much about this but refer you to all the botched ops that happened this year and the last couple of years. Ops that happened on friendly territory, casualties caused by repeating the same mistake repeatedly.

And let me be clear, by saying that Para SF would get slaughtered at night by terrorists, I'm not insinuating that the individual Para SF operatives are incapable; they r capable, well-trained, motivated men. But unfortunately, humans are capable of only so much. You need the gear to enable the operative to properly be able to put his skills to use.

We had those casualty because change in tactics by pigs and right now by recent ops just prove what I said about armys capability army has adapted to trts new tactics
and if we don't have any pic of nvg with trts we cant believe them
And in recently if you pay close attention you can clearly seen most of sf soldiers with tonbo ti in jnk and even normal infantry too for that matters and not even in kashmir but also on other frontline
And para sf are right now seen with hcbh helmet which I think bis more than appropriate head gear
And you saying para sf will get "butchered" & "slaughtered" are very wrong choice of words

 

[username unkown]

Yeah, sure para's have Tonbo TIs, but how often have we seen them on the ground during ops? I probably could count that on one hand. Moreover, it's not me who's claiming that terrorists might have gen 3 nvgs, Maj. Sahani said it on the podcast.
Now, like the terrorists, most Para SF squads have maybe 1 or 2 Tonbo TIs in a squad and the standard NV is still a gen 2 monocular. Para SF is hardly even seen wearing appropriate headgear to run the Tonbo TIs. It's mostly those crappy monoculars.
"Indian sf are more than capable of conducting such ops successfully"
I'm not gonna say too much about this but refer you to all the botched ops that happened this year and the last couple of years. Ops that happened on friendly territory, casualties caused by repeating the same mistake repeatedly.

And let me be clear, by saying that Para SF would get slaughtered at night by terrorists, I'm not insinuating that the individual Para SF operatives are incapable; they r capable, well-trained, motivated men. But unfortunately, humans are capable of only so much. You need the gear to enable the operative to properly be able to put his skills to use.

If you look care fully you will see tonbo ti is more common than you think

 

[Noob]

There are lot of option and Indian sss defence too but army have unique fixation fir AK , Europen gucci stuff and yahudi arms

Some bad habits die hard

 

[JConline]

We had those casualty because change in tactics by pigs and right now by recent ops just prove what I said about armys capability army has adapted to trts new tactics
and if we don't have any pic of nvg with trts we cant believe them
And in recently if you pay close attention you can clearly seen most of sf soldiers with tonbo ti in jnk and even normal infantry too for that matters and not even in kashmir but also on other frontline
And para sf are right now seen with hcbh helmet which I think bis more than appropriate head gear
And you saying para sf will get "butchered" & "slaughtered" are very wrong choice of words

Yeah, I get it now. You were butt-hurt by my use of vocabulary. Tough luck, buddy.
Also just cause 3-4 units are modernizing, can't claim they're all modernized. Btw there are pics of TIs found on dead terrorists. No one wants seasoned operators to die. And when Para SF is equipped enough, I'll be one of the first to rejoice. Peace!

 

[username unkown]

Some bad habits die hard

That Seems to be case with most of our forces

 

[username unkown]

Yeah, I get it now. You were butt-hurt by my use of vocabulary. Tough luck, buddy.
Also just cause 3-4 units are modernizing, can't claim they're all modernized. Btw there are pics of TIs found on dead terrorists. No one wants seasoned operators to die. And when Para SF is equipped enough, I'll be one of the first to rejoice. Peace!

Mordenisation is ongoing process it isn't a one day thing
Its on going process which is ongoing through out if not all most of the units wait 3-5 years you will see some good gear
And I was not butt hurt as you put it i thought people here had enough intelectual knowledge to know about ground reality but I was wrong
They don't know shit

 

[JConline]

And I was not butt hurt as you put it i thought people here had enough intelectual knowledge to know about ground reality but I was wrong

Well if you're the only one who knows the on-ground reality, then maybe check the reliability of this "intellectual knowledge"?

 

[username unkown]

"Paras don't dare do night ops" "they'd be slaughtered" says enough about certain intellectual knowledge about sf in general and ground reality of jnk
With that I am sign off

 

[VictorDelta4]

"Paras don't dare do night ops" "they'd be slaughtered" says enough about certain intellectual knowledge about sf in general and ground reality of jnk
With that I am sign off
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Maybe not by Tangos, but send them in against a peer to peer or a superior force, they are in for a deadly awakening.

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Is getting into SG similar?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbd8gEkMWOk&ab_channel=ShawnRyanClips

 

[Arad Operator]

Is getting into SG similar?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbd8gEkMWOk&ab_channel=ShawnRyanClips

SG is not comparable to whatever this is! They're at best an Airborne Infantry with Spec Ops capabilities.

 

[Arad Operator]

Couple of questions to understand this better:

1. Why Viper P2 & not Team Wendy
2. Why not AT SF Rig with back plate removed
3. Do we have magnifiers for FTs/M4s
4. Why NG 7 and not Pika
5. Does para use 716s in that config with LAM & LPVOs

+you missed invisio/silynx in ear headsets

Answers:-

First of all this if 'my' idle loadout for CI-CT Ops as asked by @COLHEARTEDAVIATOR...

1. Which from 'Team Wendy'? Specify like I did plus revision is now established in India, SPG might get the same Viper P3 or P4s...
2. First of all the tailor made PC of MARCOs I'm talking about has both the plates so "WhY nOt aT Sf RiG wItH bAcK pLaTe rEmOvEd" doesn't make sense, secondly I suggested this as its cost effective and whole forces can be equipped with it... Do check the price of AT SF/ST RIG, then talk.
3. Yes Magnifiers are their and more coming.
4. Cuz NG7s are newly inducted and use the same ammo as Sig-716i.
5. They have Sig-716i and the associated accessories...

Well I also missed IFAC and emergency rations, easy to point out these things.