ASTRA BVRAAM

With the emergence of next generation AAM missiles concepts from the US and China, coupled with the proliferation of 5th gen platforms in our neighborhood and the growing significance of Loyal Wingman in future battles, highlights the need for us to be future ready and start developing the next generation of AAMs or risk falling behind."

Here is my vision for the future of BVR missiles in IAF

Astra Mk 1
Max Range80-110 km
Technology UsedSingle Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetFighter Jets at Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 15kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsAMRAAM
My reasonsIs comparatively Cheap and provides an competitive edge over most of the current PAF inventory, would be useful as a standard BVR for secondary fighters like LCA


Astra Mk 2
Max Range140-160 km
Technology UsedDual Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetFighter Jets at Long Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20-25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsPL 15
My reasonsTotally Dominates Current and Future PAF inventory and can provide a somewhat competitive edge over PLAAF inventory, would be useful as a standard BVR for frontline fighters


Astra Mk 3
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Max Range250 - 300 km
Technology UsedSolid Fuel Ducted Ramjet
TargetFighter Jets at Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20- 25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsMeteor
My reasonsEven though it's expensive, it totally Dominates Current and Future PAF inventory and can provide an competitive edge over PLAAF inventory, would be useful as a special use BVR for frontline fighters


Astra Mk 4
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Max Range40-60 km (Max 80 km)
Technology UsedRelatively Single Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetLoyal Wingmen Drones at Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageHalf the size of current BVR's and can be carried in IWB of Smaller Loyal Wingman like CATS Warrior
WarheadHit to kill (similar to PAC-3)
Similar SystemsLockheed Martin’s CUDA
My reasonsLoyal Wingmen need to be low cost and expendable which means they need to be relatively small in size due to which our standard missile can't fit in their IWB and thus a CUDA class missile the size of SAAW will be a perfect fit.
Not to mention it would allow 5th gen platforms to carry a lot more Missile in the IWB.


Astra Mk 5
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Max Range300-350 km
Technology UsedTriple Pulsed (2 stage missile)
TargetFighter Jets at Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan only be carried externally on big fighters like Su 30 and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20- 25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsBoeing LRAAM
My reasonsCan be used in a mesh network against enemy fighters where 5th gen platforms relay the target info to larger platforms in the back which would fire this missile at the target.
Could be a cheaper alternative to Astra Mk 3


Astra Mk 6
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Max Range400-450 km
Technology Used2 stage Dual Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetSupport Assets (AWACS) at Long Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan only be carried externally on big fighters like Su 30 and is not very maneuverable
WarheadLarge 50- 60 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsPL 17 or AIM-174B
My reasonsIt is less technologically complex than Astra Mk 3 and is badly needed to counterbalance the high numbers of AWACS and Tankers present in both PAF and PLAAF.
The missile would be a 2 stage missile with 1st stage being dropped mid flight, allowing it to reach longer ranges and destroy enemy assets.
For what you call Astra Mk4, there are already two projects called NGCCM and Astra IR for that category.
 
For what you call Astra Mk4, there are already two projects called NGCCM and Astra IR for that category.
What he is saying we should get a kuda class missile like Americans have for there future warfares ie for wing mans.
They have very advance solid fuel tech we wouldn't be able to extract a good enough needed range like them and not to mention it gotta be a kinetic hit missile which would require a good amt of energy..
Ngccm approach is our approach.

However we are forgetting dircm Exists.
 
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#BREAKING : Final experimental test of Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) propulsion based missile system successful.

Indigenously developed by DRDO, the tech will propel India to develop long range air-to-air missiles. Flawless mission indicates the system is ready for integration.

Credits :
@TheHemantRout

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1867515240629567922


View: https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/1867579102581993747

Such range (340km at 20km altitude) was said for Meteor (> 300km).

BUT, there is a big but : in the 2 cases (Meteor and Astra) it is a maximum range, after a zero turn flight, against a non maneuvring target. ie absolutely useless. Same as saying a ballistic missile can reach a 10000km range but without any warhead !

For memory, No Escape Zone of Meteor is officially ">60km". Is it 61km? 80km? more? The french always are pessimist when they speak of weapon range....
But NEZ is the real potential of a missile.
 
Such range (340km at 20km altitude) was said for Meteor (> 300km).

BUT, there is a big but : in the 2 cases (Meteor and Astra) it is a maximum range, after a zero turn flight, against a non maneuvring target. ie absolutely useless. Same as saying a ballistic missile can reach a 10000km range but without any warhead !

For memory, No Escape Zone of Meteor is officially ">60km". Is it 61km? 80km? more? The french always are pessimist when they speak of weapon range....
But NEZ is the real potential of a missile.
Meteor might also be benefiting with the throttlable liquid fuel ramjet. 300km with less than 200 kg weight is pretty good. Also more maneuverable.

But none the less Astra being SFDR will take less maintenance and greater shelflife.


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1867805409546998101
 
With the emergence of next generation AAM missiles concepts from the US and China, coupled with the proliferation of 5th gen platforms in our neighborhood and the growing significance of Loyal Wingman in future battles, highlights the need for us to be future ready and start developing the next generation of AAMs or risk falling behind."

Here is my vision for the future of BVR missiles in IAF

Astra Mk 1
Max Range80-110 km
Technology UsedSingle Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetFighter Jets at Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 15kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsAMRAAM
My reasonsIs comparatively Cheap and provides an competitive edge over most of the current PAF inventory, would be useful as a standard BVR for secondary fighters like LCA


Astra Mk 2
Max Range140-160 km
Technology UsedDual Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetFighter Jets at Long Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20-25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsPL 15
My reasonsTotally Dominates Current and Future PAF inventory and can provide a somewhat competitive edge over PLAAF inventory, would be useful as a standard BVR for frontline fighters


Astra Mk 3
View attachment 10718
Max Range250 - 300 km
Technology UsedSolid Fuel Ducted Ramjet
TargetFighter Jets at Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan be carried in IWB and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20- 25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsMeteor
My reasonsEven though it's expensive, it totally Dominates Current and Future PAF inventory and can provide an competitive edge over PLAAF inventory, would be useful as a special use BVR for frontline fighters


Astra Mk 4
View attachment 10710
Max Range40-60 km (Max 80 km)
Technology UsedRelatively Single Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetLoyal Wingmen Drones at Double Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageHalf the size of current BVR's and can be carried in IWB of Smaller Loyal Wingman like CATS Warrior
WarheadHit to kill (similar to PAC-3)
Similar SystemsLockheed Martin’s CUDA
My reasonsLoyal Wingmen need to be low cost and expendable which means they need to be relatively small in size due to which our standard missile can't fit in their IWB and thus a CUDA class missile the size of SAAW will be a perfect fit.
Not to mention it would allow 5th gen platforms to carry a lot more Missile in the IWB.


Astra Mk 5
View attachment 10713
Max Range300-350 km
Technology UsedTriple Pulsed (2 stage missile)
TargetFighter Jets at Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan only be carried externally on big fighters like Su 30 and is highly Maneuverable
WarheadSmall 20- 25 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsBoeing LRAAM
My reasonsCan be used in a mesh network against enemy fighters where 5th gen platforms relay the target info to larger platforms in the back which would fire this missile at the target.
Could be a cheaper alternative to Astra Mk 3


Astra Mk 6
View attachment 10717
Max Range400-450 km
Technology Used2 stage Dual Pulse Rocket Motor
TargetSupport Assets (AWACS) at Long Triple Digit Ranges
Maneuverability and CarriageCan only be carried externally on big fighters like Su 30 and is not very maneuverable
WarheadLarge 50- 60 kg PF warhead
Similar SystemsPL 17 or AIM-174B
My reasonsIt is less technologically complex than Astra Mk 3 and is badly needed to counterbalance the high numbers of AWACS and Tankers present in both PAF and PLAAF.
The missile would be a 2 stage missile with 1st stage being dropped mid flight, allowing it to reach longer ranges and destroy enemy assets.
Astr-4,5,6 :wtf::wtfcat::shocked::faint::faint2::hail:
 

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