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ezsasa said:
AN/APG-78 is unique, there is no other such heli mounted system as far as i know.

one peak above the ridge/tree line, acquire a hundred ground targets within seconds without WSOs in other apaches having to break cover, identify and prioritise targets, and ability to send dozens of hellfires from multiple apaches in different directions. yes, it is a capability worth having for 14000 crores. that 3 billion number included chinook as well.

if we accept the premise that warfare is all about having the edge over the adversary, it is definitely worth it.

anyways deal was signed in 2015, we are in 2024 now. don't be that uncle who keeps sulking about some marriage dinner you didn't like from 10 years ago. :ROFLMAO:

chini are also developing a similar system, what will you do if we didn't have it and they show up with such a capability on our door step ?
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You missed the whole point.
But it is not suitable in Himalay but you still counting on it.
 
Pundit Pikachu said:
Answer - Protests, like they always do, it was a fuck*ng miracle Modi even managed to corporatise and break OFB into smaller companies in the first place.

As for what would happen next, govt will slowly reduce their workforce and size but keep them afloat because not having a govt controlled ammo production agency is something GoI will never accept
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Essential Defence Services Bill, 2021, passed by the Parliament.

Essential defence services: Essential defence services include any service in: (i) any establishment or undertaking dealing with production of goods or equipment required for defence related purposes, or (ii) any establishment of the armed forces or connected with them or defence.

Key features of the Bill​

  1. Scope of essential defence services– The government chose to define the term ‘essential defence services’ in such a way so as to enable wide import with respect to interpretation and applicability. Hence, any service even remotely involved in providing goods and equipment to the military or connected with the latter is included. Additionally, the government also conferred upon itself the right to declare any establishment as essential defence services if the cessation of its activities would affect the production, repair and maintenance of defence goods as well as the operation or maintenance of the industries involved in the production.
  2. Public utility services – The Bill adds essential defence services to the public utility services enlisted in the Industrial Disputes Act, 1947, making it mandatory for employees in the former to give in a six-week notice if they plan to go on a strike or do lock-outs in breach of the contract.
  3. Prohibition– The Bill defines strikes as cessation of work by a body of persons acting together. The same is elaborated further as-
    • Mass casual leave
    • Coordinated refusal to accept employment or work, including working overtime, where such work is essential for the smooth continuance of defence services
    • Any other conduct leading to the disruption of the functioning of defence services.
The government can pass a prohibition order for strikes, lock-outs or lay-offs in the interest of the sovereignty and integrity of India, security of any state, public order, decency, and morality. Apart from the first three reasons, however, it is unclear how the rest are related to the military interests of the country.

This order will remain in force for six months, and may be extended to another six months.

  1. Punishment– Employees engaging in illegal strikes, lock-outs and lay-offs while the order is in force will be punished with up to one year of imprisonment, a Rs. 10,000 fine, or both. People facilitating such strikes through monetary support or inciting or instigating them will be punished with up to two years of imprisonment, a Rs. 15,000 fine, or both.
Lastly, all these offences will be cognisable and non-bailable.
 
Vishnugupt said:
So why are we buying LCH then??

We spent 3 billion and now all answers coming with if and but
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1. For the high altitude areas where the heavy helos can not perform as has been clearly demonstrated by that IAF Apache.
2. To make up the numbers as they are cheaper. By the way, just because I said Prachand won't be AS effective, does not entail they won't be effective at all!! It's still a very potent attack helo in its own right and will do wonders when accompanied by the Apaches with their Longbow radars marking the targets at beyond the horizon for them .
 
Blood+ said:
1. For the high altitude areas where the heavy helos can not perform as has been clearly demonstrated by that IAF Apache.
2. To make up the numbers as they are cheaper. By the way, just because I said Prachand won't be AS effective, does not entail they won't be effective at all!! It's still a very potent attack helo in its own right and will do wonders when accompanied by the Apaches with their Longbow radars marking the targets at beyond the horizon for them .
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We learned same thing in kargil that heavy heli do not fare well in mountains but army is like nah we want those highly overprized heli which crashes all the time mallai bhi toh chaiye
 
username unkown said:
We learned same thing in kargil that heavy heli do not fare well in mountains but army is like nah we want those highly overprized heli which crashes all the time mallai bhi toh chaiye
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Arey mallai ki baat toh hai par Apache Longbow jaise heavy attack heloes ki bhi requirement hao plains aur desert ki liye.

Now we have to look at this from a position of reason and logic instead of getting carried away by raw emotion. Objectively speaking, the AH-64E is a better platform on almost every conceivable way, no matter how much we hate to admit it. I'd say they definitely have their place.
 
Bhaubai said:
:indian-flag:

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Big brain move by Tata.

Now TATA will officially call themselves Moroccon طاطا . Now they will showcase the product to UN Genrols and ready to do JV with AVANI. Initial batch will be 100 imported from Morocco to India and then JV in Avadi.
 
Blood+ said:
Arey mallai ki baat toh hai par Apache Longbow jaise heavy attack heloes ki bhi requirement hao plains aur desert ki liye.

Now we have to look at this from a position of reason and logic instead of getting carried away by raw emotion. Objectively speaking, the AH-64E is a better platform on almost every conceivable way, no matter how much we hate to admit it. I'd say they definitely have their place.
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I agree long bow radar is useful but for its cost i don't think so and for us our main focus should be mountain but what's done is done
For future we should focus on indegenius heavy attack heli with similar capability with more of ka 52 design fr mountain terrain
Thease import are not designed for us indegenius option are designed for us
 
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