India at Olympics

[Suryavanshi]

Okay, so this too ended.
Let's wait for another four years, I know nothing will change though.

Some theatrics in cricket might happen but who knows we might choke there too.

Every four years, it's like a hall of shame, and the Indian government doesn't do anything about it.
First they control sports boards and when people ask for results they give stupid excuses, like how the hell AIFF is still allowed to function? I am still unable to understand, just as one need a central football board in every nation so India too have that board named AIFF.

If government is not interested then give it to someone else who considers sports like a war there will be many, the jokers with permanent jobs just are not enough for this job, Central government and state governments say they are too busy running government and elections, then why the hell are you in sports controlling boards?

Every single institution that receives monies from gormint must have afsars, must have quotas and thus will have sarkari work culture.

Want a gormint mukt sports you have to raise your own fund.

 

[Vinod Patter]

Blame game begins as IOA president PT Usha points fingers at Vinesh Phogat over Paris Games disqualification

The blame game seems to have begun as the Indian Olympic Association (IOA) president, PT Usha, has pointed fingers at grappler Vinesh Phogat over her disqualification at the Paris Olympic Games 2024. PT Usha put Vinesh under the bus in response to criticism directed towards the IOA medical team...

www.wionews.com

 

[angryindian]

The truth is that the average dehati in this country don't care about Olympic performance (or even know what Olympics is). And govt has no intention of bringing a revolution in sports here, they're happy with autopilot.

Also, when will be the host city for 2036 be declared?

Will be declared in 2025, however, the probabilistic chances of India hosting 2036 are low because both Saudi and Qatar are eying it and they can easily throw more than 100 billion $ for it.

 

[SKC]

glanced over at the surface.
interesting system .. funded both by gormint and public themselves ( national lottery).

View attachment 6224

https://www.uksport.gov.uk/resources/transparency-and-open-data

mods, @SKC table issue i had raised is to not yet sorted.

Sometimes the Tables are pasted without any issues and sometime it never works.

Will check on the support of XenForo.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Sometimes the Tables are pasted without any issues and sometime it never works.

Will check on the support of XenForo.

Must have something to do with the way tables are formatted in html

 

[notaname]

Sometimes the Tables are pasted without any issues and sometime it never works.

Will check on the support of XenForo.

Must have something to do with the way tables are formatted in html

Check for special characters in textarea as well, sometimes they also create a bit of issue in text formatting, And if any regex is there that will fail and mess up the things.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

View: https://youtu.be/MnC32wQXtuA?si=i-1_75jQvgEqBBJ6
Just go at the comments section, Chinese propaganda bots are having field day, that's why they live, to show how much superior are they to India.
I am coming now to know that even Hong Kong won gold medals.
Wow, just wow.

 

[haldilal]

Heartbreak For Wrestler Shivani As Wrestling Federation of India Cancels Olympic Trials

She is the first Indian woman wrestler to win silver medal in World U-23 Wrestling Campionship.

www.google.com

Madhya Pradesh Wrestler Shivani Pawar: Missed Olympics Due to Trial Cancellations | Headlines

Shivani Pawar, a wrestler from Madhya Pradesh, missed her chance at the Paris Olympics due to last-minute trial cancellations. Despite her preparations and grievances about rule violations, she remains determined to achieve success in future championships.

www.google.com

 

[srev2004]

Stanford University’s haul of 39 medals (12 gold, 14 silver, 13 bronze) is 5x India's total.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Stanford University’s haul of 39 medals (12 gold, 14 silver, 13 bronze) is 5x India's total.

6.5 times

 

[srev2004]

So the sports infrastructure needs to be present at the university level with PhD programs focused on athletic performance. I think only then will India start beating the other countries.

 

[srev2004]

UC Berkeley had 5 gold, 10 silver and 8 bronze.

Total count is 23 medals.

 

[srev2004]

Between Stanford and Berkeley, that is 49% of US medals in Paris Olympics.

 

[srev2004]

Sports Tech - UC Berkeley Sutardja Center

Sports Tech and Human Performance Where Technology, Science, and Sports Collide In Partnership with the Intuitive Foundation Spring 2020 Course Challenge Lab: Sports Tech and Human Performance INDENG 185-003 Class #:28854 The goal of the Sports Tech & Human Performance Challenge Lab is to...

scet.berkeley.edu

 

[srev2004]

Applied Sports Science & Sports Performance

gostanford.com

 

[srev2004]

India should pick two schools and replicate this with the same rigor.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

Paris leaves India with a few smiles — and many red flags

India's Paris Olympics campaign ended with six medals. There were also six agonising fourth-place finishes, more than ever, to mark the bitter-sweet campaign that ebbed as the Games progressed.

indianexpress.com

One thing prominent in this article is a thing that I think is serious.
It's correct, that money that India sports authorities are spending are going to sportspersons or athletes but not towards sports, one of the reason why in badminton there is no one after PV Sindhu that we can bank on, similarly in other sports too.
India needs massive changes in sports mindset.
Pretty serious article, it's give us glimpse of why India right now in sports is choking king.

 

[crazywithmath]

View: https://youtu.be/MnC32wQXtuA?si=i-1_75jQvgEqBBJ6
Just go at the comments section, Chinese propaganda bots are having field day, that's why they live, to show how much superior are they to India.
I am coming now to know that even Hong Kong won gold medals.
Wow, just wow.

Hong Kong's medallist are chinkus only. Check their performance before 2012, they were barely winning medals.

 

[crazywithmath]

Every single institution that receives monies from gormint must have afsars, must have quotas and thus will have sarkari work culture.

Want a gormint mukt sports you have to raise your own fund.

You have medallists cuz of govt money only; it is them who brough TOPS and Khelo India - private contributions are secondary only.

Either way, I projected 10-12 medals for us back in July on the Olympics bid thread; which (if not for so many 4th place, SF, QF exits, injuries and Vinesh Phogat like incidents) were pretty spot on I think.

One caveat is that I based my projections on the international performances of our athletes in the run up to the games - which did not necessarily reflect in Paris. One possible reason is that, a majority of our contenders were pretty inexperienced - some in their early 20s, a lot of teenagers even and hence, faltered in the concluding stages.

You need veterans to win medals in an event like the Olympics. Look at Manu Bhaker - she was a medal contender in Tokyo too but crumbled under pressure. She was brutally trolled and abused on SM (because media built massive hype around her in the lead up to the games) but learnt from her mistakes and came to understand what it took to compete on a big stage. Cut to Paris, she is a double medallist and narrowly missed out on a third medal.

Another example would be Mirabai Chanu - who is past her prime and have been battling one injury after another for the past few years. She barely competed in the past 1-1.5 years but came back in time for Paris and almost managed to medal despite not being at her physical best.

Our hockey contingent had an inconsistent season in the run up to the Paris Games, even mediocre teams like GB were scoring 3, 4, 5 past us; the Aussies handed a 0-5 whitewash in bilateral series and Fulton's defense first hockey style came under heavy criticism. Heck, I was watching pre Games projections and they did not even expect us to go past QF. And yet, at Paris 2024, when it mattered the most they were beating Aus, GB (with 10 men), Spain etc with relative ease. It happened because the squad boasted of veterans like PR Sreejesh, Manpreet and Harmanpreet who knew what it took to turn up on the biggest stage of them all.

Vinesh Phogat, nowadays a part time politician and forced to compete in 50 kg by Antim Panghal (who refused to vacate her 53 kg quota), managed to win an Oly quota through the Asian qualifiers despite barely competing in the international circuit for over a year. She was getting tech-ed by chinese wrestlers in ranking series. And yet, at Paris, she knocked out the invincible Yui Susaki and made it to the gold medal bout. With a competent nutritionist she would have returned with our first ever wrestling gold. Again, she could do it because she has medalled at multiple worlds, Asian tourneys (often demolishing gold medal contenders for fun) and had what it took to win bouts despite not being anywhere near her prime.

The athletes who have narrowly missed out on medals (almost all in their early 20s) will learn from it and medal in future events. There is almost no difference between a medallist and a 4th place/SF/QF finisher - it all comes down to experience and finesse. Not everyone is a Neeraj Chopra or Aman Sehrawat who can medal in their maiden games.

If our sporting system were so shit (as implied by the armchair youtubers/journalists and resident bhosdapillers at DFB) these athletes would not even come so close to medalling and neither would we finish 4th on the Asian Games medal tally. We have never had so many athletes so close to podium finishes in any of the previous games.

Lastly, this "1.6 billion people with 6-7 medals" argument is BS. Population alone has no correlation with sporting success - so many examples to prove that (spoiler: sporting success is a function of GDP per capita, state capacity and population).

We have an amazing wrestling programme - they even became the women's team champion at the u20 worlds (defeating Japan and the US). In 57 kg FS alone, the top 3 wrestlers in the world are all gonna be Indians (Ravi dahiya, Aman Sehrawat and Udit). Also, some potential monsters in 65 kg FS (Sujeet Kalkal) and 74 kg FS (Jaideep/Sagar). The recent gun law amendments have made sport shooting a mass sport and created insane depth at u20 level. These sports will keep on giving.

To those bhosdapilled by incels and edgy armchair journalists (who barely follow Olympic sports in non Olympic events) - remember chinkus did not win a single Olympic medal before 1984.

 

[crazywithmath]

India needs massive changes in sports mindset.
Pretty serious article, it's give us glimpse of why India right now in sports is choking king.

Why are they choking now only? Forget choking, as recently as 8 years back they were not even coming close to medalling? If memory serves me well, Manu Bhaker was considered a choker too, no? How did that turn out, eh?

Badminton never had much depth in India, idk why it surprises so many. We just produce 1-2 generational talents every few years who go to the Olympics/World Championships/Asian Games and return with medals. Back in 2023 World Championship, HS Prannoy was the golden goose. In Paris, Sat-Chi were expected to play that role - too bad, back to back injuries and lack of match practice in the lead up to the games caught up to them but well deserved for us, that's exactly what we get for having so little depth in a sport like badminton. Lakshya always had outside chances only and was unlucky to have landed on the tougher side of the bracket.