Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[705-Lira]

I believe think tank already knew about this situation 3-4 years back ..maybe that was the reason to purchase S400 knowing it would cause strain in relationship with umrica.
Nothing is lost as of yet as long we have plan and we work on it
Tejas Mk1 will be hired in number which will at least fill gaps in our defensive capabilities. That along with S400 and Kusha should be able to shield us

Problem is with our offensive capabilities.. that will take about a decade to replenish.. Mk2 and Amca is on paper and computer
MRFA is also like a carrot , don't see it materializing in near future unless umrican do something unexpected .

Tejas Mk2 is definitely not on paper, there are many SOWs to prove that.

 

[angryindian]

When you only concentrate on AMCA after you dump the FGFA program with the Russians, this is what you get.

SU 57,on which the FGFA was to be developed is a questionable 5th gen fighter, dumping it was the best thing to do, otherwise the Russians would have looted billions of dollars from India for a substandard aircraft.

 

[Suryavanshi]

still better then anything we have and will have in next 10 years.If china sells this to porkistan we will start begging for f35 from US.

That is a given, anything India builds or procures Pakistan must also match it by a certain ratio.

I believe we will see j 35 in hands of porkies this very decade.

 

[Ayan Barat]

When you only concentrate on AMCA after you dump the FGFA program with the Russians, this is what you get.

Ummnn...it may sound bit of an overstretch but we've surpassed Russia in almost all of the defence arenas except just one or two in terms of technology. Not even two, just engine core I'd say.

So despite being just on paper and without proper engines the AMCA still feels bit better than Su-57. We're going with multi-faceted EOTS as compared to the typical "ball" on Sukhoi which can act as a Luneburg lens on its own. The geometric stealth seems better. Not to mention that Su-57 wasted a huge potential of having perhaps the best weapon bay of any stealth fighter by dividing it in two sections; if there had been no bulkhead in between then it might have been capable of carrying longer missiles like even BrahMos, something which is an inherent problem with all stealth jets from F-22 to J-20.

Heck I even am a strong believer that we wasted $5 billion dollars on S-400. There was no eminent threat of war, we might had gotten our hands on F-35 or atleast few of its technologies for AMCA, S-400s have shown a sketchy performance (and even if not then a local production line of SAM would always have better magazine depth against saturated attack than an imported one with a couple hundred missiles)...but perhaps the saddest of all, we bought S-400 despite knowing that Kusha was just around the corner.

 

[angryindian]

That is a given, anything India builds or procures Pakistan must also match it by a certain ratio.

I believe we will see j 35 in hands of porkies this very decade.

Pakistani media reports that Pakistani pilots have already begun training on the J-31 . Analysts believe the PAF will receive the first batch by 2027-28.

It's both disturbing and disheartening to see that despite having an economy 11 times larger than Pakistan's, India still doesn't have a clear technological or quantitative advantage over it. For reference, China's economy is five times the size of India's but the gap between the two militaries is massive.