Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Azaad]

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/-ot8efd4EcI?si=9Y-j4hLHrFigaLnH

Damn ! Saurav Jha is on a roll , this time reverting back to the old format of only answering questions from the audience on IAH focusing almost entirely on the IAF. Some good reveals here .

 

[Blademaster]

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/-ot8efd4EcI?si=9Y-j4hLHrFigaLnH

Damn ! Saurav Jha is on a roll , this time reverting back to the old format of only answering questions from the audience on IAH focusing almost entirely on the IAF. Some good reveals here .

Pls give me the TLDR version.

 

[705-Lira]

hard to believe our country's security is in the hands of a bunch of quota engineers and pension uncles at HAL.

You are free to open up your own shop and bid for the contract, no one is stopping you.

 

[705-Lira]

IAF wanted to get the Rafales but government said no , they were forced to get Tejas (not that I am against it) and now we hear there is still pending critical integration and that too when China and even Pakistan have better jets than us
So it's not IAF fault here ..Babus sitting comfortably in AC rooms do not care of our soldiers life when they go down in outdated jets ..

Money doesn't grow on trees.
The MRFA is a $30 billion bondoggle with literally zero value addition to the local industry, it is unfeasible today and more so a decade ago.
IAF seems more than happy to sacrifice equally important programs like aerial refuellers, AEW, SOJ, ISTARs in the endless pursuit of MRFA which does little to guarantee survivability in an all out brawl with PLAAF.
Rafale is crazy expensive for what it offers, and it's not like what it offers is out of this world, watch the Navy shill out Rs.63,000 crore for barely 26 aircraft.

 

[Brood Father]

Money doesn't grow on trees.
The MRFA is a $30 billion bondoggle with literally zero value addition to the local industry, it is unfeasible today and more so a decade ago.
IAF seems more than happy to sacrifice equally important programs like aerial refuellers, AEW, SOJ, ISTARs in the endless pursuit of MRFA which does little to guarantee survivability in an all out brawl with PLAAF.
Rafale is crazy expensive for what it offers, and it's not like what it offers is out of this world, watch the Navy shill out Rs.63,000 crore for barely 26 aircraft.

Money doesn't grow on tree but National security of the country does ?
The role of IAF is not to either make jets or to fund and research critical technologies. Their role is to safeguard country which they are doing with reduced squadrons by flying obsolete airframes and risking lives of our airmen

I completely understand why government is not keen on MRFA but what about alternatives? Tejas MKIA was promised with critical techs but even that is not available and HAL is conveniently blaming everything on GE engines ..why they are not able to integrate Astra missiles or python missiles ?

This is not IAF job to deliver jets better HAL step up or don't cry when import lobby takes over

 

[705-Lira]

Money doesn't grow on tree but National security of the country does ?
The role of IAF is not to either make jets or to fund and research critical technologies. Their role is to safeguard country which they are doing with reduced squadrons by flying obsolete airframes and risking lives of our airmen

I completely understand why government is not keen on MRFA but what about alternatives? Tejas MKIA was promised with critical techs but even that is not available and HAL is conveniently blaming everything on GE engines ..why they are not able to integrate Astra missiles or python missiles ?

This is not IAF job to deliver jets better HAL step up or don't cry when import lobby takes over

"The role of IAF is not to either make jets or to fund and research critical technologies".

This is exactly where the issue is, the mindset.
They would love to sit on sidelines while product development is ongoing rather than getting themselves involved and then become critiques when the finished product rolls out.

 

[aim120]

Trump just said F35 is being offered to India .

 

[Nibbler]

Trump just said F35 is being offered to India .

He said they are working on paving the way to f35 or something like that

What does that mean? 100 f21 first then f35?

Fuk that

 

[darkflame]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pm-...-art-f-35-fighter-jets-to-india-7706114/amp/1

Trump Says US To Sell State-Of-Art F-35 Fighter Jets To India​

 

[Ayan Barat]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pm-...-art-f-35-fighter-jets-to-india-7706114/amp/1

Trump Says US To Sell State-Of-Art F-35 Fighter Jets To India​

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Spoiler: POTUS's statment for Indian MIC...

 

[Nutcracker]

AF wanted to get the Rafales but government said no , they were forced to get Tejas

MK1A is not Rafale's replacement. It was supposed to replace MIG21. IAF was gonna retire 5-6 squadrons of MIG21 from 2019-25. IAF retired jurnails should be taken to the task that why they didn't plan to order LCA timely.

 

[Mr.Evil]

Bruh what?

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1890176071049568712?s=46

Spoiler: Help

can anyone explain me what’s best for us here or what is going on,Iam not really into air side defence so I don’t have much info

 

[Ayan Barat]

can anyone explain me what’s best for us here or what is going on,Iam not really into air side defence so I don’t have much info

> If price is reasonable and limitations are only limited to "must consult, before using it against our ally" then fine; we're already having an appetite for a foreign jet under MMRCA so what's better than having a cheap and advanced stealth fighter

> If price is too much and so are the limitations like "must have our personnel on ground for maintenance, software upgrade would come based on Prime Minister's mood" then naaaah; an AMCA on a drawing board would be much better than a F-35 sitting on tarmac because we can't use it.

 

[Yuyutsu]

better to take small order like rafale and keep porks in check with their new chinese 5th gen (or not) toys.
and also ask for help on AMCA.

one or the other day we had to buy a amreeki jet so why not f-35. just for keeping amreekis happy and become more serious in our own 5th gen plan.




2 squadrons of f-35A and one for naval f-35B , which will cost around 5-7B $ as already bought by some countries.

 

[Gandaberunda]

better to take small order like rafale and keep porks in check with their new chinese 5th gen (or not) toys.
and also ask for help on AMCA.

one or the other day we had to buy a amreeki jet so why not f-35. just for keeping amreekis happy and become more serious in our own 5th gen plan.


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2 squadrons of f-35A and one for naval f-35B , which will cost around 5-7B $ as already bought by some countries.

Well if we are indeed arm twisted to buy F35 then why order peace meal 2 squadrons atleast 3-5 squadrons should be ordered. Get the fighters in numbers. Also F35B is a no go USNavy themselves aren’t satisfied with it and not needed as well we are getting Rafale M for vikky and Vikrant and our third career is a distant dream

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

better to take small order like rafale and keep porks in check with their new chinese 5th gen (or not) toys.
and also ask for help on AMCA.

one or the other day we had to buy a amreeki jet so why not f-35. just for keeping amreekis happy and become more serious in our own 5th gen plan.


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2 squadrons of f-35A and one for naval f-35B , which will cost around 5-7B $ as already bought by some countries.

Yes sure... let's build a zoo of 2 squadrons this... 2 of that... 2 or 3 squadrons very well serves the purpose of Airshows and RD flypasts. Waise bhi suar bureaucrats and dhoti-lungi chaap netas don't have the stomach for conflict. If F-35 has to come then atleast 80 in number... anything less is the clown playing to the audience (gullible illiterate junta).

What are those 36 rafales good for apart from giving a false sense of security/supremacy to the RD flypast crowd who don't understand that we have a 10000 km aerial front... & 36 can't/won't be present to defend even a third of it anytime?

 

[Bleh]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pm-...-art-f-35-fighter-jets-to-india-7706114/amp/1

Trump Says US To Sell State-Of-Art F-35 Fighter Jets To India​

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Yes sure... let's build a zoo of 2 squadrons this... 2 of that... 2 or 3 squadrons very well serves the purpose of Airshows and RD flypasts. Waise bhi suar bureaucrats and dhoti-lungi chaap netas don't have the stomach for conflict. If F-35 has to come then atleast 80 in number... anything less is the clown playing to the audience (gullible illiterate junta).

Once the door opens, the dam will break. IAF will be wanting more. Navy too will probably prefer F-35C to operate STOVL... Chalo AMCA & TEDBF done bandh karke Mark2 & drones pe concentrate karo.

2 Squadrons Of F-35s For IAF! Trump Offers F-35 Stealth Fighters To India, Expert Calls It Ideal To Bridge The Stealth Gap

US President Donald Trump said that the United States will sell F-35 stealth fighter jets to India. Interestingly, the stealth fighters are participating in the Aero India airshow in Bangalore. “Starting this year, we will be increasing military sales to India by many billions of dollars. We are...

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"I am pleased to announce that my administration has approved the extradition of one of the very evil people of the world," he said, referring to the extradition of 26/11 Mumbai attack plotter Tahawwur Rana to India.

Rana, currently detained at a metropolitan detention centre in Los Angeles, is known to be associated with Pakistani-American terrorist David Coleman Headley, one of the main conspirators of the terror attack.

"He is going to be going back to India to face justice," Trump said. "We're giving him back to India immediately" and more such extraditions could follow as we have quite a few requests (from New Delhi)," he added.

 

[Bleh]

No serious individual would refer this site for defence news... where did these morons get the source for 2 squadron claim?

It's everywhere now

 

[Bleh]

Money doesn't grow on tree but National security of the country does ?
The role of IAF is not to either make jets or to fund and research critical technologies. Their role is to safeguard country which they are doing with reduced squadrons by flying obsolete airframes and risking lives of our airmen

I completely understand why government is not keen on MRFA but what about alternatives? Tejas MKIA was promised with critical techs but even that is not available and HAL is conveniently blaming everything on GE engines ..why they are not able to integrate Astra missiles or python missiles ?

This is not IAF job to deliver jets better HAL step up or don't cry when import lobby takes over

You know why this happened?

Pakistan bitchslapped IAF out of the sky & paraded around blindfolded, because when Jf-17 was in similar shaky status as Tejas at early 2010s... They backed it with their full force & inducted 50 without BVRs, while ours called it a 3-legged chertah.
And today IAF has to celebrate barely surviving AAMs from an inferior Air Force & make face-saving claims that literally noone other than Indian civilians were fooled by.

Combat is an extension of politics & policies.

 

[BHARAT KA BETA]

I know it is really bad for Whap ( Tata & Mahindra) to go with the Stryker, but Indian GOVT. had no other option to defend itself from heavy Tariffs as India enjoys huge Trade surplus( by percentage) with USA...& only purchasing oil was not going to be enough, we had to buy goods of large prices....BUT BUT BUT , DON'T YOU THINK purchasing of Stryker or Javelin is not going to possess any compromise with our strategic neutrality ? It is still better than to go with strategic weapons like FIGHTER JETS/ SUBMARINES/LONG RANGE MISSILES/AVIONICS...though the POTUS has mentioned about sell of F35, I think Indian GOVT. is smart enough to not get into that trap....& Lastly for WhAP , I think Indian Army has huge requirement of Armoured vehicles & 200-300 Strykers are never going to fulfill that, WhAP will be there in significant numbers....I am a neutral person & I think it is too early to make any criticism on Indian GOVT. EXCEPT THEIR SLOW & LATE PROCUREMENT POLICIES OF Indigenous weapons LIKE ATAGS/ WhAP/MGS/LCH/LCA etc.