Indian Special Forces

[rkhanna]

@rkhanna Here's a familiarisation phase photo from Mallet Strike 24

Actually I realised my original Comment was out of context to the Picture I was refering to.

What i meant was that the Americans will never operate with anyones elses weapons. A Familiarization Day to test out and feel out partner forces weapons is different from what i meant.

Also a NATO Joint Readiness or an OPFOR Exercise is also different THOUGH (rom what I have been told ) on big Manouevers the Americans tend to revert back to their own systems.

Generally Speaking the Americans demand Interoperability towards themselves - not the other way around.

Anyways - moot point

 

[rkhanna]

Suppresser is useful but even if we ignore rifle wearing out part cost and fact that under thermal/nvg suppressor is easily visible and it actually sparks so for our case i think a good muzzle device is sufficient

Optics can pick up the Soldier as well not just the Thermal Signature of the Suppressor. That being Said this is not a "New" Problem and yet Suppressors roam the battlefield I think there are a number of Thermal Covering/sleeves solutions available to reduce the glow as well.

A Suppressor adds many more benefits to a soldier and a Small Unit

 

[username unkown]

Optics can pick up the Soldier as well not just the Thermal Signature of the Suppressor. That being Said this is not a "New" Problem and yet Suppressors roam the battlefield

Ok then

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/OXtlES8F7Kg?si=eSf-osaFHnNc2pVd
I dont want to walk in mountains of kulgam with this glowing torch when pigs have thermals do you

Its not just that they glow in dark or give away your position suppressor are long , heavy and overexpensive and not to mention rifle wearing out faster so suppressor are great for dedicated ops for sf but for infantry its no go
Suppresser is again one of the reason I think xm7 is trash as std issue
In past thermal and nvg were only with nato and us so it didn't matter if they used suppressor or not but things are changing even in Ukraine both side have very limited night fighting capability but in future thease will be very common even with trts and millitant around the world

 

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View: https://x.com/dauntless_ops/status/1858760568078843954?s=46

 

[rkhanna]

Ok then

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/OXtlES8F7Kg?si=eSf-osaFHnNc2pVd
I dont want to walk in mountains of kulgam with this glowing torch when pigs have thermals do you

Its not just that they glow in dark or give away your position suppressor are long , heavy and overexpensive and not to mention rifle wearing out faster so suppressor are great for dedicated ops for sf but for infantry its no go
Suppresser is again one of the reason I think xm7 is trash as std issue
In past thermal and nvg were only with nato and us so it didn't matter if they used suppressor or not but things are changing even in Ukraine both side have very limited night fighting capability but in future thease will be very common even with trts and millitant around the world

Thank you. saw this video when it was posted originally.

Did this information just come to light? Someone tell this to DevGru, Delta, SAS, KSK, etc etc

NVGs and Thermals have been littering the Killing Fields of Afghanistan and the ME for many many many years. it is not the monopoly of Nato.

Also you think Muzzle Flashes (non supressed) will not show on Thermals? AI Enhances Optics will pic out any form of thermal signature at an exponential rate from here on out. The Russians have devices to reflect lasers off Sniper Optics for their Counter Sniper devices.

For every problem there is a Solution. Thermal Insulating Sleeves for Suprressors are getting more and more prevalent. The Tank Brought the ATGM - There is enough advanced R&D on Camo tech to defeat Optics.

The Other Benefits of a Suprressor are:

A suppressor helps:

1. Increase Noise Disicple,
2. Increase Communication Efficiency
3. Increases Accuracy
4, Increases Situational awareness (Your ears are not FUBAR)
5. Potentially Reduces Mussle Flash
6. Reduces Situational Awareness of the OPFOR.

You happened to Mention Infantry vs SOF - I disagree here as well. Most Infantry Fighting is done during Daylight Hours - The issue of Thermal Signature no longer an Issue. Benefits of Suprressor remain (though cost prohibitive).

If am not wrong there is a wonderful paper written up by the USMC on the benefits of suppressors.

You can also buy a subscription and spend sometime on SOFREP.

 

[username unkown]

Thank you. saw this video when it was posted originally.

Did this information just come to light? Someone tell this to DevGru, Delta, SAS, KSK, etc etc

NVGs and Thermals have been littering the Killing Fields of Afghanistan and the ME for many many many years. it is not the monopoly of Nato.

Also you think Muzzle Flashes (non supressed) will not show on Thermals? AI Enhances Optics will pic out any form of thermal signature at an exponential rate from here on out. The Russians have devices to reflect lasers off Sniper Optics for their Counter Sniper devices.

For every problem there is a Solution. Thermal Insulating Sleeves for Suprressors are getting more and more prevalent. The Tank Brought the ATGM - There is enough advanced R&D on Camo tech to defeat Optics.

The Other Benefits of a Suprressor are:

A suppressor helps:

1. Increase Noise Disicple,
2. Increase Communication Efficiency
3. Increases Accuracy
4, Increases Situational awareness (Your ears are not FUBAR)
5. Potentially Reduces Mussle Flash
6. Reduces Situational Awareness of the OPFOR.

You happened to Mention Infantry vs SOF - I disagree here as well. Most Infantry Fighting is done during Daylight Hours - The issue of Thermal Signature no longer an Issue. Benefits of Suprressor remain (though cost prohibitive).

If am not wrong there is a wonderful paper written up by the USMC on the benefits of suppressors.

You can also buy a subscription and spend sometime on SOFREP.

Thermal and nvg are not common in afganistan or me it is known fact that nato guys have best night fighting capability thats why it wasn't issue for western sof to use it in me or afganistan and thermal sleaves does solve this problem to some extent yes

You happened to Mention Infantry vs SOF - I disagree here as well. Most Infantry Fighting is done during Daylight Hours - The issue of Thermal Signature no longer an Issue. Benefits of Suprressor remain (though cost prohibitive).

Suppresser helps yeah but they are long , heavy and overexpensive even for american market do you think our infantry would use it with thier fiberglass helmets
Or our sf with jholachap pc
Thats why I said suppressor is good for sf only with thermal cover or in common language blanket/kambal