Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

Binayak95 said:
the Browning Hi Power is a perfectly adequate 9mm pistol. Its never used by regular infantry anyway, and the guys who use pistols regularly (SF) already have Glocks.
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Maafi Sir, maafi... :cry:
Ayan Barat said:
Because we don't issue pistols to infantry like other militaries where everyone gets a sidearm. We only issue pistols to officers, vehicle crews or Tier-1/2 operators.

Vehicle crews and officers know that they won't be using their sidearm anywhere except weapons qualification tests so they don't care much. As for Tier-1/2 operators who are actually going to use a pistol in combat, they've pretty much standardized either PX4s or Glocks.
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Binayak95 said:
the Browning Hi Power is a perfectly adequate 9mm pistol. Its never used by regular infantry anyway, and the guys who use pistols regularly (SF) already have Glocks.
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I guess some token orders have to be given to keep the erstwhile OFB boys occupied I guess, though I would've preferred if Private players were invited to at the very least create competition to reduce cost of acquisition. We unfortunately do not live in an ideal world.
 
mist_consecutive said:
Why so much hate for this simple, cheap & reliable pistol ?
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Didn’t expect such a naive answer from you bhai.

But if we are going towards “cheap and reliable” lemme give my side of arguments why modern 9mm pistols are better than OFB’s 9mm.

1.Modern Pistols are lighter and have better ergonomics which prioritises user comfort and control through better grip design,better weight distribution which makes it a good sidearm.

2.Modern pistols have a refined barrel design and sights which increases accuracy and ease of using the weapon.

3.Modern Pistols come with accessory rails,better trigger safeties

4. They are also easier to equipped with sights and other accessories.

5. And at last about “reliable” we all know the world class quality weapons OFB makes with zero issues:). /s
 
mist_consecutive said:
Why so much hate for this simple, cheap & reliable pistol ?
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I don't know, I was just laughing at the sheer bad luck of @Mr.Evil
Poor guy just wanted some modern pistol to replace Auto 1A...fast forward mere 20 hours and Army orders 3000 more of these.

Over-all it's a decent pistol and nothing's wrong with not fixing what ain't broken; anyone on the planet earth not using a DShK/NSV/XYZ-123 is still using the same M2 designed in 1918 and modified 1911s are still the most high-end guns in competitions.

But the fact that you can easily shave 400g, get 5 more round, picatinny rail, sight mounting option, threaded barrel in the same price range by switching to a modern polymer framed pistol is what makes this acquisition bit disappointing.
 
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Mr.Evil said:
Didn’t expect such a naive answer from you bhai.

But if we are going towards “cheap and reliable” lemme give my side of arguments why modern 9mm pistols are better than OFB’s 9mm.

1.Modern Pistols are lighter and have better ergonomics which prioritises user comfort and control through better grip design,better weight distribution which makes it a good sidearm.

2.Modern pistols have a refined barrel design and sights which increases accuracy and ease of using the weapon.

3.Modern Pistols come with accessory rails,better trigger safeties

4. They are also easier to equipped with sights and other accessories.

5. And at last about “reliable” we all know the world class quality weapons OFB makes with zero issues:). /s
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Small arms is not my expertise, so wanted to learn, I do not claim expertise over every field under the earth. But anyways, your expectations are a bit too high.

When Army is struggling to induct & standardize a basic assault rifle, ammunition logistics are all over the place, sights and accessories are treated as unnecessary luxuries, prioritising a pistol acquision is out of question.

Also the fact that pistols are considered a "secondary" priority by IA doesn't helps the cause either. Infact I will silently agree, I would rather have soldiers issued a decent assault rifle with accessories + scope, decent helmet & personal gears and I won't mind compromise in pistol quality.
 
Corvus Splendens said:
This is satire right ?
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Nope. AK Setup on the left is good but RAPTOR Micro RDS on SIG :frusty:. Mag grip even though angled grip is right there.
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Look at the position of angled grip. It's on 9 O'clock rail of Upper Handguard. :facepalm4: Don't know why it is mounted there when he already has a vertical foregrip at 6.
 
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