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[Suryavanshi]

A movie need t9 be made on this. Had it been Hollywood and sardar patel jew - you would have engrossing international film out by now completely spreading two faced and deceitful character of muslim league and brits.

But given we have belchwood in Mumbai fim industry- even a film gets remotely made shall be about song and dance and stolen glances.

More than that you need to worry about the courts who won't let a single blot come to the reputation of sub-continent Muslims siteing "disruptive communal harmony element".

 

[Roshan]

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[Azaad]

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This Odd Compass channel is from the same school of philosophy as Manu Pillai , Kanisetty aka Kani of The misPrint fame & author of a few pop history books among several others , who're essentially water carriers for the west.

They'd cherry pick events from history, super impose it over the entire society & talk of nuances , accusing those opposed to their view of history of the same traits they themselves indulge in like cherry picking for instance.

Here's a good example :


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[Roshan]

This Odd Compass channel is from the same school of philosophy as Manu Pillai , Kanisetty aka Kani of The misPrint fame & author of a few pop history books among several others , who're essentially water carriers for the west.

They'd cherry pick events from history, super impose it over the entire society & talk of nuances , accusing those opposed to their view of history of the same traits they themselves indulge in like cherry picking for instance.

Here's a good example :


View: https://youtu.be/SnpY8t_wcp8?si=15IaVad8AF4Wz6JQ

Yea they quote extensively and mainly above from Vatsyayana's Kama Sutra which is the fav literature from India for degenerate Westoids especially. It's not shastraic by any means as a general guidebook on how to live but I suppose this handle quoted it to put racist white incels in their place.

 

[Azaad]

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[Azaad]

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Yajnadevam's going places , rather he's gone mainstream.

ToI has done an article on him , the contents of which I find more surprising than the fact that the IVC script may have been deciphered , especially when you consider the author's pedigree & place of occupation .

Wonderful article btw especially the way complex themes are sought to be explained in a simple manner without dumbing it down for the lay person .

Wish I were that articulate.

 

[Azaad]

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Yajnadevam's going places , rather he's gone mainstream.

ToI has done an article on him , the contents of which I find more surprising than the fact that the IVC script may have been deciphered , especially when you consider the author's pedigree & place of occupation .

Wonderful article btw especially the way complex themes are sought to be explained in a simple manner without dumbing it down for the lay person .

Wish I were that articulate.

View: https://twitter.com/nsitharaman/status/1898209196145099069?s=19

 

[Nutcracker]

Shivalingam and Yoni at IVC.

This is by Sir John Marshall's Collection.

View: https://x.com/yajnadevam/status/1898103269521559568

View: https://x.com/yajnadevam/status/1898119274415505738

 

[ezsasa]

yajnadevam has completed his translations.

Indus Inscriptions by Yajnadevam

indusscript.net

 

[Azaad]

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ॐ नमो भगवते रुद्राय । ॐ सरस्वत्यै नमः ॥

Indus corpus is 100% translated.

Some observations:
1. Grammatically correct Sanskrit throughout.
2. Consistent themes. A huge percentage (approx 90% relate to Rudra. Other gods like Indra and Vishnu are mentioned by their other names).
3. Rare missing anusvara, visarga as in later Brahmi inscriptions
4. Almost all inscriptions are R>L. Very few are L>R, most of L>R have the directional marker.
5. There is only one word रल in only one inscription M-1701 that is not officially in the dictionary. Related words do exist in the dictionary.

All in all, the translation effort has been a spectacular success and validates the decipherment.

I'd like to give a shoutout to all who have helped with the website, Sanskrit grammar, many suggestions. Especially thanks to the early critics, who tried to falsify my work. Your work improved the decipherment because my direction was generally right. The list of people to acknowledge is very long and impractical to list here.

Now enjoy!
indusscript. net (remove the space before net)

 

[Azaad]

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One of the most impressive absurdities I see in Indus script research is the naivette of the decipherers. Most speculations presented in papers are improbable. Researchers who cannot distinguish between speculations and analysis certainly are going down the wrong road.

1. Were the seals used for trade records? The argument that people would work for weeks to carve, bleach and bake a seal to create a single trade record is impressively absurd on its own but the innumeracy of this is even more staggering. Among the 1000 years of the 1000 sites of the civilization were there only 4500 trades? Or only 4.5 trades/1000 years per site?
2. Were the seals used for trade licenses/taxes? This argument is also improbable for the same reason. In addition, only 70 or so Indus sites had these seals. 900+ sites of the 1000 excavated had no seals whatsoever. Apparently, they did not participate in the license Raj! The largest and oldest sites of Bhirrana and Rakhigarhi yielded 6 and 13 artifacts so far. These sites have existed for 5000+ years! and only a dozen licenses from here!
3. Were the seals non-religious? This speculation is based on rare seals in burials. Some decipherment attempts take this as a premise. However, it is common to not bury bibles and other religious artifacts, so this conclusion is an error. The abundance of religious iconography of obvious worship and sacrifice and puranic themes suggest that the inscriptions were religious in nature.

This is an important explanation for those who doubt the deciphering of the SSVC seals claiming the sole purpose of those seals were for trading purposes whether inland or overseas.

 

[mcpo117]

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This is an important explanation for those who doubt the deciphering of the SSVC seals claiming the sole purpose of those seals were for trading purposes whether inland or overseas.

almost all of those seals have a modicum of religious significance.

 

[Anants]

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This is an important explanation for those who doubt the deciphering of the SSVC seals claiming the sole purpose of those seals were for trading purposes whether inland or overseas.

Interesting in the seal we can see 7 Saptarishi . A Bull - definitely we see Shiv /Rudra

 

[Azaad]

Interesting in the seal we can see 7 Saptarishi . A Bull - definitely we see Shiv /Rudra

It appears most of these seals were recovered from what're now sites in Paxtan. Lends credence to what Srikant Talageri long ago claimed that the Vedics were only one of the religious sects in the Sindhu Saraswati Valley Civilization albeit the most prominent one with other prominent sects eventually merging into what we now recognize as Sanatan Dharma with the Vedic religion & philosophy at the very apex of it. This process took millenia.

Let's not forget that the Bharatas & their direct descendants the Kuru Panchals whose original familial possession these Vedas were, inhabited the lands which we now recognize as being parts of Western UP, all of Haryana, Delhi , NE Rajasthan & Eastern & South Eastern Punjab, when & more importantly where the Vedas were composed . This was the original Brahmavarta with all the lands outside of it being considered Mleccha. Ironically the original home of the Bharatas / Ailas or descendants of Ila - the Chandravanshis as opposed to the Surya vanshis or the Aikshvakus - descendants of Ikshvaku, was Kashi & once upon a time even further to it's east .

This is the reason I believe if we're to explore Eastern & Central UP, we'd find settlements of equal if not much greater antiquity than Bhirrana which itself is dated conclusively to 8th - 7th millenium i.e 9-10, 000 Years Before Present ( YBP) . A good example is the site of Lahurradewa which is dated to 10,000 BCE for the very first settlements & is one of the first sites in the Indian sub continent to show examples of rice cultivation.

The History of Lahuradewa

Lahuradewa is a village in eastern Uttar Pradesh. The site has been occupied since as early as 10,000 BC, and by 7,000 BC it provides the oldest evidence of pottery in South Asia. Excavations here …

prehistoryofindia.wordpress.com

Unfortunately, whatever we've discovered there is more a function of default & dogged pursuit by a few committed individuals rather than a state intervention or policy. The other difficult part is the heavy inhabitation of these parts as compared to say Haryana which in itself has a high density of human inhabitation which renders archaeological diggings very difficult if not impossible .

Eventually as the Bharatas expanded their rule the areas considered Brahmavarta expanded its terms of reference eventually encompassing most of Northern India, NW India including what's now Paxtani Punjab, Sind & KPK , Eastern India upto what's now WB with the southern boundaries being the Vindhyas & the Northern boundaries being the Himalayas .

This land was known as Aryavarta with the core Kuru Panchal territory being known as Brahmavarta / Madhya Desha. What was originally a religious concept soon acquired political tones as this same Madhya Desha concept along with mandalas of kingdoms surrounding it being defined in the Artha Shastra by Kautilya. The Chinese have a similar concept with the endonym in Mandarin for China which is essentially an exonym, being Zhongghuo or The Middle Kingdom.

BTW that "bull " isn't a bull but the mythical unicorn. There's no hump in it. The unicorn itself is considered to be everything from a black buck viewed thru a particular angle where the horns appear singular to the neelgai to a composite of different animals. There's no firm conclusion on it .

 

[ezsasa]

So much colonial warfare squeezed onto such a little map.
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