Indian Army Armored Vehicles

Binayak95 said:
Tracks ko dekho bhai. k21 hi hai base mai.
It's logical. L&T built an entire factory to make AFVs with ToT from the koreans. Of course they'd leverage that.

The engine is the exact same Cummins as the K21.
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I mean with all due respect, it don't mean anything, it's very common in engineering to look at products from someone else, analyze them, and then make a better product which may look quite similar. Also the Stryker itself is derivative of piranha, but US MIC is more around air force and missile system, and engines ground system is usually not their biggest concern, Stryker is itself made in Europe.

And general dynamics is not the biggest influencer in US MoD policies to force others to buy something. Also Tata makes a lot of command and control units, seamless integration won't be their biggest hurdle, also fcr is not something that can't be developed in few months, given we have multiple companies with a variety of products in ground based fcr. It's purely a case of intent. Nothing else.
 
Binayak95 said:
What? You show tender for seats, AMCCS and CBRN recce and say the entire chassis is DRDO?
the 22 tonnes of Armor steel - that's the base layer so i assume 3 tonnes of ceramic composites.
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You missed point 2 completely, I think those you mentioned are written under special sub system
 
Binayak95 said:
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The armour package is DRDO's. Their ceramic composite mix is damn good.

Some of the sensor suites are Tonbo's and have that see through augmented reality tech.

It's a damn good prototype for the time frame. Service ready I'd say. L&T is the best goddamn integrator in India.
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It looks like they have reworked chasis. Tracks for example they look they have placed inside, the drive train has been worked upon. Remember seeing them in background when Modi Visited LT factory for the visit quite some time back.

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Binayak95 said:
What? You show tender for seats, AMCCS and CBRN recce and say the entire chassis is DRDO?
the 22 tonnes of Armor steel - that's the base layer so i assume 3 tonnes of ceramic composites.
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Tender was for development and supply of chassis.
 
Thats it lads, kiss WhaP goodbye, Redacted and IA have again done an Arjun on WHaP . Bloody traitors !
 
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Sometimes, I think people are really just finding a way to save IA from criticism.

A solution exists but AP rounds reeeeee..... Like every damned terrorist has mags full of only AP rounds. And drdo has already developed add on lightweight ceramic Armor, hell even a composite passanger cabin can be mounted on present trucks, will easily provide STANAG 2/3 protection, without adding too much weight penalty.

Solutions are many but they just want Gucci gear, while 90% equipment is WW2 era.

Remind me why these big brained guys in IA didn't ordered gun shields with Armado and are deploying them with their chest high....
If the terrorists are smart enough to target drivers in trucks, they are smart enough to take out gunner in Armado first as well....
And well, various RCWS exist but here we are with 1000 IQ people

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Yha bas Twitter p logo se ProD InDIan ArMY krwa lo

Those who have been following defense in India would agree with me that our soldiers kept on dying for years, and well a decade+ for now in CI/CT Ops and nothing happened. Nothing will happen in near future as well, life is somewhat extremely cheap here.
And then there was US which fielded around 10,000+ MRAPs within a relatively short time to tackle IED threats. Hum Inka 1/10 kar le wo hi bahut h.
 
Hawkeye said:

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1811092648612241603

Sometimes, I think people are really just finding a way to save IA from criticism.

A solution exists but AP rounds reeeeee..... Like every damned terrorist has mags full of only AP rounds. And drdo has already developed add on lightweight ceramic Armor, hell even a composite passanger cabin can be mounted on present trucks, will easily provide STANAG 2/3 protection, without adding too much weight penalty.

Solutions are many but they just want Gucci gear, while 90% equipment is WW2 era.

Remind me why these big brained guys in IA didn't ordered gun shields with Armado and are deploying them with their chest high....
If the terrorists are smart enough to target drivers in trucks, they are smart enough to take out gunner in Armado first as well....
And well, various RCWS exist but here we are with 1000 IQ people

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Yha bas Twitter p logo se ProD InDIan ArMY krwa lo

Those who have been following defense in India would agree with me that our soldiers kept on dying for years, and well a decade+ for now in CI/CT Ops and nothing happened. Nothing will happen in near future as well, life is somewhat extremely cheap here.
And then there was US which fielded around 10,000+ MRAPs within a relatively short time to tackle IED threats. Hum Inka 1/10 kar le wo hi bahut h.
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Everyone is hell bent on giving same excuse that:
"Anything above 2.5T wont perform good on valley's thin and bad roads"

There are many options available in the market including the Ashok Leyland Stallion armored series which falls under similar weight category.

If weight is the issue get a better and powerful engine.
 
Hawkeye said:

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1811092648612241603

Sometimes, I think people are really just finding a way to save IA from criticism.

A solution exists but AP rounds reeeeee..... Like every damned terrorist has mags full of only AP rounds. And drdo has already developed add on lightweight ceramic Armor, hell even a composite passanger cabin can be mounted on present trucks, will easily provide STANAG 2/3 protection, without adding too much weight penalty.

Solutions are many but they just want Gucci gear, while 90% equipment is WW2 era.

Remind me why these big brained guys in IA didn't ordered gun shields with Armado and are deploying them with their chest high....
If the terrorists are smart enough to target drivers in trucks, they are smart enough to take out gunner in Armado first as well....
And well, various RCWS exist but here we are with 1000 IQ people

View attachment 2377
View attachment 2378

Yha bas Twitter p logo se ProD InDIan ArMY krwa lo

Those who have been following defense in India would agree with me that our soldiers kept on dying for years, and well a decade+ for now in CI/CT Ops and nothing happened. Nothing will happen in near future as well, life is somewhat extremely cheap here.
And then there was US which fielded around 10,000+ MRAPs within a relatively short time to tackle IED threats. Hum Inka 1/10 kar le wo hi bahut h.
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On Tatra Trucks? Do these Jokers even know how much each Tatra truck costs plus the cost of the Armour that will further raise the cost. The best is that Ashok Leyland and Tata offer Armoured Trucks at half the cost then Tatra Armoured trucks. download (1).webp
 
coldfire2024 said:
On Tatra Trucks? Do these Jokers even know how much each Tatra truck costs plus the cost of the Armour that will further raise the cost. The best is that Ashok Leyland and Tata offer Armoured Trucks at half the cost then Tatra Armoured trucks. View attachment 2461
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Btw MKU Provides Kavro armoured solutions for 4x4,6x6 etc vehicles which just an armour layer they have two options one in which the layer protects against AP Bullets and also against HMG second one in which it provides STANAG 4569 protection

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