Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Kedar]

These things are mostly happening due to Poor work ethics of Indian workforce, negligence and no adherences to the Protocols and Processes.
Kaamchalau-Jaggadpanti is in full force everywhere.

Unfortunately, its all around us apathy towards one's own dharma/duty. Root cause is pretty obvious in any direction you look from very top to very bottom.

 

[Blood+]

Previously, they had no expertise and experience in building FFG and DDG. Only one shipyard i.e MDL was capable of doing it. Now, GRSE is doing it too. In future we might see GSL also being roped to build frigates.

GSL is already making the Talwar class FFGs, right?? And since Navy does not want anymore Russian types, therefore I was saying that they should start making the likes of P 17A or the follow on class of FFGs. But I'm not sure their dry docks are large enough to accommodate ships of 6000 ton class higher.

 

[Blademaster]

How come IN does not want anymore Russian types?

 

[Blood+]

How come IN does not want anymore Russian types?

Maybe the Navy finds the current Indian design to be better; or at least better suited for needs. Binayak95

 

[haldilal]

How come IN does not want anymore Russian types?

Maybe the Navy finds the current Indian design to be better; or at least better suited for needs. Binayak95

Dependency on Russian technicians and the mercy of them.

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Old talwar class vs new one (with shtil-vls)

 

[Blood+]

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Old talwar class vs new one (with shtil-vls)

Neat, will the older ships be upgraded to this standard as well?? Anyway, I hope they change the radar with an Indian one at a later date.

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Probably not but who knows the shivaliks were supposed to get mf-star but now would carry on with the existing payload (tbh we didnt need it rn)

Neat, will the older ships be upgraded to this standard as well?? Anyway, I hope the change the radar with an Indian one.

 

[darkflame]

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...sed-says-vice-admiral-3117843#google_vignette
Talking to PTI at Vasco in South Goa, Vice Admiral Swaminathan said, "It is a sad incident, but the Navy will enquire into it. Whatever corrective measures need to be taken will certainly be taken." A lot of water was used to douse the fire, and
perhaps the ship's stability was upset because of this, and it tilted to one side and is resting on the jetty, he said. "The ship can very well be made upright once the water is pumped out, and we can do a damage assessment," he said

 

[rohitb3]

@haldilal as I said, Talwar-class frigade made my GSL took only 3 years to complete. The keel was laid down on 29 January 2021. I don't see a reason why we can't add more order to this class as INS Brahmaputra replacement.

Only 3 years to "complete"? Thats just the launch. Now lets wait another 3 years till outfitting and all construction is completed , followed by trials and final commissioning not before 2028.

 

[Binayak95]

How come IN does not want anymore Russian types?

Different design and operating philosophy to the IN. IN places a lot of emphasis on the ship's crew efficiency on long deployments. Russian ships place a premium on redundancy and minimal volume. Ergo smaller ships with cramped crew spaces.

 

[Blademaster]

Different design and operating philosophy to the IN. IN places a lot of emphasis on the ship's crew efficiency on long deployments. Russian ships place a premium on redundancy and minimal volume. Ergo smaller ships with cramped crew spaces.

What about redundancy? Has IN placed a high priority on that as well?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

View: https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1815454051850744252

 

[vampyrbladez]

Talking to PTI at Vasco in South Goa, Vice Admiral Swaminathan said, "It is a sad incident, but the Navy will enquire into it. Whatever corrective measures need to be taken will certainly be taken." A lot of water was used to douse the fire, and perhaps the ship's stability was upset because of this, and it tilted to one side and is resting on the jetty, he said. "The ship can very well be made upright once the water is pumped out, and we can do a damage assessment," he said. Asked about the sailor who went missing after the incident, the vice admiral said, "We don't know where the sailor is. He was seen coming out of the ship. A search is on to trace him."

Damage on INS Brahmaputra to be assessed, says Vice Admiral

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...sed-says-vice-admiral-3117843#google_vignette

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Damage on INS Brahmaputra to be assessed, says Vice Admiral

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...sed-says-vice-admiral-3117843#google_vignette

This piece of info is very interesting
I want to speculate but would wait till something official

 

[Binayak95]

in so far as survivability, yes - but not without taking into consideration ergonomics. Which is why you hear dumb statements like the Kamortas are underarmed.
Feature creep is a monster that has slain bade bade.

What about redundancy? Has IN placed a high priority on that as well?

 

[Blood+]

in so far as survivability, yes - but not without taking into consideration ergonomics. Which is why you hear dumb statements like the Kamortas are underarmed.
Feature creep is a monster that has slain bade bade.

While I do conform to this school of thinking, the Kamortas could use some air defense missiles.

 

[vampyrbladez]

View: https://x.com/ajitkdubey/status/1815943068908150931

 

[Binayak95]

While I do conform to this school of thinking, the Kamortas could use some air defense missiles.

VL SRSAM is coming. The sisters were due to get MICA VL - alas that went the way of the HF73.

 

[Wolfie]

VL SRSAM is coming. The sisters were due to get MICA VL - alas that went the way of the HF73.

Is it opinion in the Navy too to outfit modern ones with vlsrsam and as a retired naval person, what's your guess about number of vls module, also any plans about replacing legacy radars onboard our ships with indigenous versions